What does working with Liz actually sound like?
Like a straight conversation, not a pep talk. He is honest about the early doubt, and honest about what changed it: clarity about what is expected and where the business is going. Confidence arrived as a result. This is what the work actually sounds like.
"If somebody's not working out within our business, it's not working out for their career either."
for them and we must remember that. If somebody's not working out within our business, it's not working out for their career either. And all the time that we're not being honest, we're giving them a disservice as well because it's their career and they could be doing something that's better for them.
So the clarity around the right people at the right stages is key for you. Yeah, and it's been very key and it's understanding not just to take anyone, right? There's values, there's cordial alignment.
And again, depending on the time of their career, it's making sure and understanding what they want to get out of this next piece. And if it doesn't really work for the business, it's not basically flexing to their desire.
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